Friday, June 3, 2016

"Natural treatments" and ET

Turmeric! It's what makes your curry powder yellow
and your chick peas nice and spicy. Can it help with ET? 
Several people on this blog and the Facebook page have an interest in "natural" treatments for essential thrombocytosis. Turmeric and resveratrol have come up in conversation, but the hard scientific evidence about how well these substances work is sketchy.

But since there's a lot of interest in these treatments, here's what I found out, but first, a few caveats and disclaimers. (You can see from the number of "buts" that I'm a little hinky about this topic.)

First, I'm not sure what "natural treatments" means to the average person, but it seems to boil down to the use of nutritional supplements or foods that are can be purchased without a prescription and are not processed by big pharmaceutical companies, who then charge you a boatload of money for them.

Second, taken in large amounts, these substances can have interactions with your other meds, so PLEASE, people, talk to your hematologists about this stuff before you start experimenting.

Finally, I urge people to be very leery of claims for cures made by those selling these supplements and treatments. Those of us with rare diseases are sitting ducks for those peddling false hopes in order to make a buck.

So all that said, let's start with:

Lifestyle changes. The Mayo Clinic offers several lifestyle and dietary changes that can help you stay healthier and avoid developing ailments that would increase clot risk. (Remember that ET already heightens your clot risk, so you want to do what you can to reduce it.) Most of this is just common sense:



  • Eat healthy foods. Choose a varied diet rich in whole grains, vegetables and fruits and low in saturated fats. Try to avoid trans fats. Learn about portion control to maintain a normal weight.
  • Increase your physical activity. Aim for at least 30 minutes of moderate physical activity a day. Take a brisk daily walk, ride your bike or swim laps.
  • Achieve or maintain normal weight. Being overweight or obese increases the pressure in the veins in your pelvis and legs and is a risk factor for conditions such as high blood pressure.
  • Stop smoking. If you smoke, take steps to try to stop.
  • Indirubin, olive leaf, and turmeric. Several people over at Cancer Compass (link right) have taken turmeric for ET. The Pennsylvania State University and the University of New Mexico MPN pages have pretty much identical info about turmeric and two other herbal treatments. The info stresses that no tests have been conducted on these substances, and they should NOT be taken by some patients:
    • Indirubin (Indigofera tinctoria). In case reports, indirubin showed positive results in treating CML long-term. However, no scientific studies have been done on using indirubin for CML. Indirubin is from the indigo plant and is included in a traditional Chinese herb formula that has been used historically to treat CML. Not much is known about the safety of indirubin. Ask your doctor before taking it and only use under the guidance of a knowledgeable prescriber.
    • Olive leaf (Olea europaea). For anticancer and immune effects. People with diabetes and high blood pressure should ask their doctor before taking olive leaf.
    • Turmeric (Curcuma longa). For pain and inflammation. DO NOT use turmeric if you have gallbladder problems. Turmeric may increase the risk of bleeding, especially if you take blood thinners, such as warfarin (Coumadin), clopidogrel (Plavix), or aspirin.
    Resveratrol. A 2011 study published in the journal Neoplasia of a JAK2 inhibitor called G-6  (which contains stilbenes, the same active ingredient as resveratrol) was used in mice and showed some promise for ET. However, researchers noted that resveratrol found naturally in food would be at such low dosages as to have no effect, and no dosage for resveratrol supplements was offered. Why more research has not been done on this is a good question to ask your hematologist.

    American ginseng. Finally, the Alliance for Clinical Trials in Oncology, in conjunction with the National Cancer Institute tested about 300 individuals with all types of cancer, including MPNs, with American Ginseng in 2014. The study asked patients given American ginseng and those given a placebo to measure their mental, physical, and emotional states during the eight-week test. They were also asked to rate their level of general vigor. The group taking American ginseng reported moderate rises in mental state and overall vigor. To a lesser extent they reported improved physical state. Emotional changes reported were the same in both the American ginseng and control groups.

    Be careful! Be well!




    10 comments:

    1. this disease won't go away or get better. There's nothing you can eat or avoid eating that will help. Trust me, diagnosed and on Hydrea 20 + years. So far so good.

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      1. Hello , which medicines are you taking and do you have any symtoms ?

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      2. Also on HU for a year now. I actually feel better, jnock wood.

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      3. Hi I’ve been taking HU for ET for 2 yrs now but platelets are still high at 870 lowest was 670 . Atm I’m taking 500 mg per day but doctor wants me to increase but I’m afraid that HU might cause Leukaemia and so reluctant to increase. What dosage have you been on considering you’re ok after 20+ years. Have your platelets reduced to normal at any stage? Would love to hear from you cos I’m really stressed about it . Also how safe is it to fly when platelets are high �� please reply to my email. Thanks

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      4. A lot will depend on your general condition and how long the flight will be re flying. I wouldn't fly without checking with my hemo. Most ET patients given the OK to fly are told to wear compression stockings to help with circulation.

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    2. Thanks for your comment. I think improving your overall health with better nutrition and exercise can help any person, with or without a chronic disease. But I am very leery of alternative cures and treatments. Science shows that Hydrea does work to reduce clot risk, which is our main concern as ET patients. It's great to hear from someone whom it has helped. Best wishes!

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    3. I have been taken Hydrea for about three years and yes so far so good and little side effects if at all. but still looking for a cure...there must be a cure and maybe different for each person.

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      1. Can I pls ask you what dosage you’re on cos I’ve been taking 500mg per day for 2 years and platelets are still 870. Doctor want to increase and I’m afraid of the drugs future side effects. Any suggestions are very welcome. Pls reply 🙏

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      2. My platelets went from 800 to 600 after a year in 500 mg per day. My hemo then told me to add two more doses per week (so I get 1,000 mg o on Sunday and Wednesdays). Now in 400-500s after six months of that.

        If HU concerns you, you could ask to try Pegasys or anagrelide. Jakafi is associated with lymphoma in some patients.

        The fears about HU are sometimes over-stated. There is no direct link between HU and leukemia. HU also seems to be safe for about 20 years. A cautious doc will give you the lowest effective dose, adding one or two extra doses gradually and, if you stay at normal levels, decreasing the dose gradually. Might help to discuss dosing with your doc.

        Clots are much more common for us than leukemia, and the HU is proven to help reduce clot risks.

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    4. I started on 500mg/day but couldn’t get platelets down enough. We changed my dosage to alternating from 500 mg to 1000 mg every other day. At last count my platelets were 350-400 (not exactly sure).

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    ET is a serious disease that requires specialist care. Discuss anything you read here with your doctor. No comments promoting "alternative" or "natural" cures (yes, this includes Rick Simpson's Oil) will be published.