Saturday, January 28, 2017

Why your doctor doesn't think you have symptoms

Is this how your doctor looks when
you tell him you feel fatigued, have
headaches, have bone pain, or just
feel crappy? 
I've been at this blog and Facebook page for over a year, and ET patients commonly complain that their doctors don't believe they have symptoms ... even though our symptoms are pretty well documented in "the literature," as the scientists say.

In catching up on my ET reading, I have some theories about this:

ET patients are most often diagnosed in their 50s and 60s. The fatigue and aches that can be a symptom of ET may be waved away as age by both patients and their doctors. And, to cut the doctors a break, it can be almost impossible to determine whether our ailments are age or disease related.

Doctors may also be skeptical about our symptoms because we aren't complainers. I was struck by an MPN specialist in one of the many YouTube videos available about ET, who noted that his patients seemed to be asymptomatic before their diagnosis and then, after they learned they had ET, claimed to have ET symptoms. It was pretty clear that this doctor felt his patients were rather suggestible; they only starting having the symptoms AFTER they learned what the symptoms were. 

But from the patient's point of view, the symptoms of ET are often vague and generally low-level. They also vary in intensity. They're not on the front burner like a case pneumonia or a broken bone. These aren't the kind of symptoms that send you running to the doctor when you're trying to deal with your kids, take care of elderly parents, hold down a job, and keep up the house. Who's got time to see the doctor?

By the same token, how many of us have come home from work tired, chilly, feeling like we're "coming down with something"? How many of us feel better in the morning, only to start the same cycle of feeling on the verge of getting sick later in the day? And how many of us have taken a pass on evening activities or visiting with friends on the weekends because we feel weary? Or tried to work through the fatigue with a lot of coffee, only to crash when the caffeine wears off?

Yes, I see you raising your hands saying, "me, me, me!"

I'm not sure how to persuade a doctor who is already convinced that ET is asymptomatic (at least until you have a stroke, internal bleeding, or ischemia) that we sometimes feel pretty bad (unless we're on chemo, the side-effects of which doctors will take seriously).

And, to tell the truth, I'm not sure what I would want the doc to do about my symptoms other than maybe admit it's not all in my middle-aged head. I do not feel that I need opioids or other heavy-hitting pain meds, including medical marijuana. Those would make me more tired and loggy than I already am. And, while I wrote awhile back how much I enjoyed a couple of weeks on Prednisone for a bronchial infection last fall, long-term steroid use has unpleasant side effects. Yes, it can help with pain and make you zippier. But, long term, it can make you gain weight, mess up your libido, play with your emotions, and cause hair loss and growth in all the wrong places. 

There just aren't good palliatives (at least right now) for symptoms like ours. Eating right, getting sleep, maintaining healthy weight, and taking over the counter pain relievers (get your doctor's advice about taking n-saids that can cause bleeding in those already taking aspirin therapy) are the best medicine for now. 

I do plan to ask about symptom control when I go to the MPN Advocacy & Education International session March 30 in Novi, Michigan. (See a complete list of events, including one in Melbourne, Australia, in February, here.) If you have questions you'd like me to take to the event, please post them here or on the Facebook page.

Meantime, be well!


7 comments:

  1. I have a question-how do I differentiate between Raynaud's Syndrome and a possible blood clot? After having ET for many years I developed a new symptom last week when my hand turned bright red and then became cyanotic for 2 hours. I almost went to the hospital but I decided to take an aspirin first and it worked.

    I contacted my doctor's office on the next business day and I felt like I kind of got the blow-off with them not even interested in seeing the picture of my cyanotic hand and the nurse just telling me that as long as I take my aspirin I will be fine. This didn't leave me with a good feeling.

    If you could kindly ask that question, I would appreciate it. I appreciate all the hard work you put into your blog.

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  2. Hi, Mel V. I am not a doctor, so I really don't know. Good question though, and I think all of us should be vigilant about the possibility of clots.

    The Mayo Clinic has some really good info about Raynaud's here: http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/raynauds-disease/basics/definition/con-20022916

    If this had happened to me and I felt I got the blow off from the nurse, I might try to make an appointment to see the doctor, explain what happened, show the picture (good thinking!) and ask when I should ignore, report, or get immediate help for symptoms.

    My hematologist is very busy and appointments are hard to get, so here in the U.S., I would start with my general practitioner/family doctor.

    The doctor would want to know what area was affected, if this has happened before, how long the episodes typically last, when they started. You would want to remind the doctor what your latest platelet count was and when it was drawn.

    Thanks for raising this question. Please write again and let us know if you learn more.

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  3. Thank you for your response. I did show a picture of my cyanotic tongue to my hematologist and my regular doctor a few months ago and I was not taken seriously so I have a feeling a picture of my cyanotic hand will also not be taken seriously. I hate looking like a hypochondriac, but at the same time I don't want to have a serious stroke or other event because I'm not taking my symptoms seriously.

    I've had this disease for over 10 years and this is the first time that I have had truly concerning symptoms as far as I'm concerned.

    I went as far as to contact another hematologist office to get a second opinion but they never bothered to call me back. It is depressing, really.

    I will figure it out. But if they speak about Raynaud Syndrome during your meeting please let us know.

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  4. I will certainly ask. Meantime, you might want to post over on Cancer Connect at right. Seems like this has come up a couple of times. Let us know what you find out.

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  5. Thank you...I will definitely check it out.

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  6. Thank you so much for the work you're putting into this blog. I'm a make, 44 with Calr positive EAT. I was diagnosed about a year ago and my platelets are right at 1.1 million. Over the past few months I've been exhausted. Like, I don't want to get out of bed exhausted. Work is a struggle as is keeping up at home. I told my doctor last week and was sort of given a blank stare. It seemed like she was completely blowing it off until I pressed explaining is read the research from 2006. She then recommended B complex vitamins.

    I wonder if she wasn't disbelieving, but rather had no option to really help. I dunno, but being validated would have been nice.

    I found your blog searching for tips of the fatigue with ET and really appreciate your thoughtful, knowledgeable posts. It's nice to read experiences of those who understand.

    Keep up the good work!

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    1. Thanks for the kind words. I saw a need for more info that patients could understand, so I started this to reach out. Believe me, I get as my out of it as anyone else. I think you're on to something when you suggest that doctors don't know what to do about fatigue. Mine wanted to look for sleep disorders, thyroid, Vitamin D deficiency--anything but the ET. Are you taking anything for your high platelet count? Hydrea can add to the fatigue. Please write any time.

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